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Lawyer who defended Prop 8 before SCOTUS is looking forward to daughter’s same-sex wedding

Apr 18, 2014, 07:50 pm CDT


Love wins in the end.

By Anonymous on 2014 04 18, 8:22 pm CDT

Of course, lawyers are supposed to represent a client zealously even if they find him reprehensible, but the irony is indeed delicious. The lawyer's statements only illustrate how wrong and immoral social conservatives are - most stop being 'conservative' when it becomes against self-interest.

By Desperate Housewife on 2014 04 18, 10:54 pm CDT

This is akin to an article appearing in today's New York Post about how several porno stars told their parents about their unusual career choice. Like the story, above, the parents were appeared to be generally 'supportive.'

True love is often tough love. When your children are immersed in sin, the most loving thing is to call them out, so that they might return to the narrow path.

By Yankee on 2014 04 19, 12:06 am CDT


Don't you find it stuffy in that cloak of self-rightiousness?

By Veritas on 2014 04 19, 3:53 am CDT

Or in your case a cloak of self-deception?

By Yankee on 2014 04 19, 4:13 am CDT

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By sunforester on 2014 04 19, 5:10 pm CDT

@5 Thank you for proving my point.

By Veritas on 2014 04 19, 6:26 pm CDT


Please re-read the article as your rant indicates that you haven't a clue as to which side of the Prop 8 issue that Cooper actually worked on. Of course, you are free to not let the facts get in the way of your opinion.

By Veritas on 2014 04 19, 6:47 pm CDT

Veritas @ 8: No, no, let sunforester rant! I'm eager to learn more about these "real Americans" of which he speaks!

By BMF on 2014 04 21, 5:55 pm CDT

Please keep comments on topic and avoid personal attacks.

By Molly McDonough on 2014 04 22, 12:24 am CDT

There is a difference between loving others and loving one's own opinions.

We too easily cloak the base, human desire to simply be right and get our way in manufactured and twisted "righteousness." Deep down, though, no matter how many mental gymnastics we perform to maintain our own ego, we know that, in the end, love wins.

And that, perhaps, is the moral of this entire story. We are selfish, crude beings. We will distort even beautiful philosophy and religion to support hate. And sometimes it isn't even out of hate -- it's because we're too cowardly and proud to admit being wrong.

But every now and then, we get a chance to break free. And beautifully, sometimes what can do it is exactly what we see in this story. Amazingly, wonderfully, our love for those closest to us can be more powerful than our love for ourselves.

By Anonymous on 2014 04 22, 12:57 am CDT

Failure to toe the line with the gay agenda is not hate.

By Yankee on 2014 04 23, 7:51 pm CDT

The way you show up to rant and rail against civil liberties for this one particular group every time there's an article on it sure looks like hate to me.

Thankfully, all the homophobic trolling in the world isn't going to stop the relentless march of justice.

Because love is going to beat you in the end.

By Anonymous on 2014 04 23, 8:21 pm CDT

@11 - Well said.

By NoleLaw on 2014 04 23, 9:04 pm CDT

The only "relentless march" that I have observed in this country is toward fatherless families and the inevitable cultural decline and moral relativism that flows therefrom. None of this, of course, is new or enlightened since counterfeit marriage has been with us in one form or another since antiquity.

Still, in due course the Church will pick up the shards of our ruined society and slowly help rebuild civilization, as the it has done so often in different ages and places in human history.

By Yankee on 2014 04 23, 9:15 pm CDT


You might want to brush up on your history of the Church in relation to rebuilding civilization, considering the extent to which the Church went to in helping destroy Greco-Roman culture.

By Veritas on 2014 04 23, 11:12 pm CDT

". . . destroy Greco-Roman culture."

I guess having Christian who failed to honor the Pagan gods torn apart by bears, leopards, and wild boars for entertainment would be considered "culture" in the minds of some.

Saints Perpetua and Felicity pray for us.

By Yankee on 2014 04 23, 11:47 pm CDT

I guess having Pagans who failed to honor the Christian God and his son, Jesus, torn apart by bears, leopards, and wild boars for entertainment would be considered “culture” in the minds of some.

Then, of course, there's the brutal repression of any Science deemed heresy, such as the theory that the Earth was not the center of the Universe, that the Earth moved around the Sun and so on.

By Veritas on 2014 04 24, 6:26 pm CDT

From the Fall of the Roman Empire until the Reformation, the Church stood for Cultural, Scientific, and Intellectual stagnation, and that is the way the Church liked it. That way, it was easier to control the Masses (no pun intended), especially if failure to comply with dictated thought and action constituted Heresy punishable by Death in an extremely brutal, gruesome, and agonizing manner meant to instill abject fear into any who might have thought of thinking outside of Church guidelines.

By ipthereforeiam on 2014 04 25, 12:38 am CDT

#18 -- To say nothing of the public entertainment of disemboweling and burning "heretics." Just ask Savanarola.

By AndytheLawyer on 2014 04 25, 8:34 pm CDT

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