Constitutional Law
Alleged Web Threats to Murder 3 Judges Spark 1st Amendment Debate
Posted Jun 25, 2009 1:34 PM CST
By Martha Neil
Yesterday's arrest of a so-called hate blogger for allegedly posting material on the Internet that threatened the lives of three federal judges in Chicago is sparking debate about permissible political speech.
Harold Charles "Hal" Turner allegedly put up an Internet blog post saying that three 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals judges "deserve to be killed" and publishing their photos, addresses and a map of the court where they work, after they published an opinion he didn't like earlier this month.
However, this doesn't seem to be a "true threat" falling outside the scope of First Amendment protections, writes Reason magazine. "Turner did not actually threaten to commit violence; he simply argued that violence would be justified."
Authorities say Turner additionally stated, in the same June 2 post: "Their blood will replenish the tree of liberty. A small price to pay to assure freedom for millions," reports the New York Times. And then Turner allegedly went on to add that the three should be made “an example” of, sending a message to other federal judges: “Obey the Constitution or die.”
As an earlier ABAJournal.com post on the case details, Turner is also accused of having explicitly pointed in his Internet postings to an actual case in which the husband and mother of a federal judge in Chicago were murdered by a disgruntled litigant at her home in 2005.
There is no evidence that Turner or anyone else acted in connection with his comments, the Times and Reason point out.
While courts traditionally have found the First Amendment permits offensive speech that doesn't amount to a "true threat," a federal appeals court in California upheld in 2002 a $109 million jury verdict against a group that distributed "wanted posters" of abortion doctors, crossing out those who were already dead, the Times recounts.
Referring to the same case, an abstract of a law review article posted by the Social Science Research Network essentially argues that First Amendment law needs to be tailored to fit the unique situations presented by the Internet.
The intended intimidating effect of such Web postings can prevent individuals from engaging in lawful and even constitutionally protected activities. Hence, they can be a legitimate arena for state action even if the speech doesn't constitute a direct threat, according to professor William Funk of Lewis & Clark Law School.
Joan Lukey, a First Amendment attorney who says she has personally experienced such Web attacks while representing crime novelist Patricia Cornwell, has been pushing for federal legislation that would criminalize them.
Additional coverage:
Associated Press: "No Bail for NJ blogger accused of threatening judges"
Updated at 4:37 p.m. to link to AP article about bail denial.

Comments
tim
Jun 25, 2009 2:45 PM CST
“deserve to be killed” is not a threat by any stretch. give me a break…why are some people so sensitive
everyone who rapes, molests or kills someone else “deserves to be killed”
lol did i just threaton anyone - no give me a break
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ellem
Jun 26, 2009 9:47 AM CST
No—YOU didn’t threaten anyone, because your statements were not specifically directed at named individuals, whose personal information you disclosed, thereby further enabling action in response to your incitement.
Now, get real and look at the facts of the incident being reported.
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Yikes
Jun 26, 2009 10:28 AM CST
I think those are pretty clear threats. You can voice many levels of discontent and disagreement without disseminating the information necessary to kill people.
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Peter L. Wanger
Jun 26, 2009 12:26 PM CST
They are threats and internet threats such as these ought to be criminalized as any similar threats made by phone, mail or in person would be. Why couldn’t people like this, instead of exhorting people to commit murder, simply ask the Congress to impeach judges whose opinions he doesn’t like. He can’t be jailed for that? THAT is political speech, not what he did.
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Jim@2009-06-27-7 0554-0400
Jun 27, 2009 3:54 AM CST
I concur with #1 and respectfully disagree with #‘s 2-4.
Years ago office personnel, including the assistant manager, excluding the manager, were given the opportunity to state one thing they would do were they manager for one day.
The assistant manager allegedly stated, “I would blow Jim ***** of the face of the Earth.”
I had to chuckle. He was probably serious. I admit that there was not a bond between us.
I did not feel threatened, because there was no realistic way he would become manager.
Again, “imaging the death of *.*” is not a crime in the U.S.
Verbally hoping my “death” is not a crime.
My “live” hope far out struggles a “death” hope.
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