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As Laid-Off Lawyers Look for Work, How to Find It Isn’t Clear

Posted Mar 6, 2009 8:30 PM CST
By Martha Neil

Only a year or two ago, when the economy was relatively strong, Aviva Tiegerman had no interest in hearing from the multiple legal recruiters who called her daily at the Manhattan office of Kaye Scholer.

But now the 29-year-old Tiegerman, who was laid off in May from her job there as a second-year real estate associate, would love to hear the phone ring. Although she has found some temporary work, she is still struggling to find another career position, the 2006 cum laude graduate of Hofstra University School of Law tells the National Law Journal.

"I feel really lost right now," she says.

About twice as many managers and professionals, including lawyers, are unemployed, compared to a year ago, according to the Associated Press. And many are feeling similarly adrift. Having seemingly lost their jobs out of the blue, they're not sure, now, how best to try to put themselves once again on a solid financial and career footing.

"Did I think there would be layoffs? Yes," says Hugh Kinast, a 31-year-old Cleveland commercial real estate lawyer. "Did I think I would be included? No."

In December, Kinast was named an "Ohio Rising Star" by Cincinnati Magazine, the AP reports. By February, he had lost his job.

"Even the most highly qualified are having a very very hard time finding a job," attorney Rick Gottlieb, who runs a small Boston bankruptcy practice, tells WBUR. When he posted a job opening for a new associate recently, he had 20 applications within an hour. At least two of the applicants graduated from law school with honors.

Judy St. John, an attorney who now works at Hoffman Recruiters in Boston, agrees. There just aren't enough legal jobs right now for all the lawyers who are looking, she tells WBUR.

Some laid-off lawyers are thinking about changing to another career, St. John says.

And others who are having trouble finding work should also consider doing so, two Texas-based legal recruiters suggest in a recent Texas Lawyer article. "Do not assume that practicing law is the only option," they write. "A tough job market is the perfect time to truly reflect upon one's interests, skills and talents in a broader way."

Related coverage:

ABAJournal.com: "March Mayhem: Law Firm Layoffs in 1 Week Total Nearly 1,500"

ABAJournal.com: "21,000 Legal Jobs Lost in Last Year"

ABAJournal.com: "For Affirmation Generation, Layoffs Hurt All the More"

ABAJournal.com (Jan. 2008): "Law Grad, 32: Don’t Do What I Did"

Comments

1.

B. McLeod
Mar 7, 2009 12:52 PM CST

While drawing unemployment benefits, work up the plan for hang-a-shingle.  Then, if there are no jobs, hang the shingle.  Finally, you will have a boss that actually gives a crap.

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Nash
Mar 8, 2009 8:25 AM CST

Or be smart , leave your ego behind and leave the practice of law. You know you already hate it! Once you put your fears aside, recognize that this situation is just the universe giving you the permission to move on to something more appealing. Being a lawyer really helps you stand out in many non-legal fields/jobs and your degree may actually make you stand out.

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B. McLeod
Mar 8, 2009 9:58 AM CST

That too.  My grandfather was a farmer, and he stood out in his field.

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Rayburn
Mar 8, 2009 2:52 PM CST

The “stand out” factor is too many times a hindrance rather than a help and most lawyers know it, too.  Too many other degrees will serve people better in the long run.

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Deyseeme T. Rollin
Mar 8, 2009 8:33 PM CST

@2, Nash:  I’m inclined to agree with Rayburn.  The J.D. and the license seem to carry a stigma.  I’m not sure if it’s just a general distaste for attorneys, or if employers are afraid that an attorney/new hire will leave as soon as a lawyerin’ job presents itself.

That said, every part of me wants your contention to be correct.  Can we get an example or two?

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practicehacker
Mar 8, 2009 9:37 PM CST

So am I supposed to feel sorry for these overfed, overpaid, whiners? I can’t wait until your subjects attempt to become sole practitioners or apply at a small firms. Thank you once more for showing us where your loyalties lie.

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practicehacker
Mar 8, 2009 10:08 PM CST

Last comment was a cheap shot - you have my apologies. If your subjects want to discuss new positions they can call my office. I am actively hiring and will consider putting them to work for $10 - $12 an hour. Pay sounds too low? Thy can always call back in 3 months once their law-school loan deferments are used up. But I can’t guaranty that I will still be paying as much.

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peter
Mar 9, 2009 5:53 AM CST

there are no legal jobs out there and will not be until the credit facilities return and corporations have cash flow

look for a non legal job in consulting, etc. or go back to medical school.

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alex
Mar 9, 2009 6:09 AM CST

Life is not any easier at small firms these days.  Don’t let people kid you.  We are wondering when the next client is going to come in and when our current ones are going to pay us just like Big Law is.

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attorney
Mar 9, 2009 7:54 AM CST

Having a JD or being an attorney is a drawback unless you are applying for law-related positions. I have a friend who has failed the bar several times. The first question when she applied for non-legal position was about her JD and if she was a licensed attorney. I don’t think being a JD carries a stigma unless you are unemployed and begging for employment with any company that will hire you.

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Nash
Mar 9, 2009 3:45 PM CST

Of course I use myself as an example. I had a hell of a time finding a job in this recession, but I eventually did in contract compliance. The job doesn’t require a law degree and it paid more than my previous job as a government lawyer did. A lot of lawyers wouldn’t even apply for such a job just because its “non-legal”. Now is the time to think outside the box—it’s about survival, not resume building. (Incidentally, I do think there is a stigma against law firm lawyers, however, because of the incredibly high salaries. The stigma can often be overcome with a little humility.)

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