Question of the Week
Do You Have a Grammar or Spelling Pet Peeve?
Posted Jul 1, 2008 9:53 AM CST
By Sarah Randag
We can’t help but notice that many readers who comment on ABAJournal.com posts are obsessed with spelling and grammar—whether they’re calling out other commenters on their errors, or re-posting, chastened, to correct their own typos. This week, blogger Howard Bashman and 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals Judge Richard Posner are getting in on the action: They had some words over Posner’s use of a singular rather than a plural noun in a recent opinion, and Bashman even brought a linguistics professor in on the debate.
So, we’re wondering: Do you have a grammar pet peeve? Are you bothered by a certain word or phrase that you constantly see misspelled? Or do you think people who revel in correcting such errors and making presumptions about those who make them are more bothersome to you than any typo or lack of subject-verb agreement could ever be?
Answer in the comments below.
Read last week's question and answers about "poetic justice."
Our favorite answer from last week:
Posted by Steve Minor: The only poem I ever saw from a judge was this, dated April 1, 1991, from the Circuit Court of Wise County, Virginia:
Dear Counsel:
This is a case of unique species,
not stare decisis, but stare feces.
The court had serious fun with these complex issues as it spoke,
but this opinion, signed the first, is no April Fool joke.
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MommyEsq
Jul 1, 2008 11:16 AM CST
“It’s” and “its” drive me crazy. Even highly educated people can’t seem to get it straight. They can’t remember that day in second grade when we were all taught our contractions. “It’s” is *only* a contraction for “it is” and you use “its” for the possessive of “it”.
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Vocab nazi
Jul 1, 2008 12:49 PM CST
Hamburger eaters who proudly declare themselves carnivores. They’re omnivores. Wheat buns, onion, lettuce, pickle and mustard are not meat.
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Car
Jul 1, 2008 1:01 PM CST
I hate when people say “women” when they mean one “woman” and “message” instead of “massage.” The worst is when people say “I seen something” instead of “I saw something.” It drives me nuts. Believe it or not, I’ve also heard grown people say “I brung” before.
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Slammer
Jul 1, 2008 1:26 PM CST
The end of Western Civilization as we know it is preceded by the ubiquitous bastardization, misuse and misplacement of the personal pronoun “me” for “I.” As in, “Me and my friends are going to the movies.” It’s viral and its wrong and one does not have to be a grammarian or anal retentive to try to stop it, which I do every time one of my kids utters it.
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QJC
Jul 1, 2008 3:01 PM CST
When writing informally—such as blawg entries or emails or even PostIt notes—there’s no reason not to capitalize the first word in each sentence. Sure, go ahead and shorten how you want to say something, but for the love of Pete, if you’re going to use a period, take the time to hold down that “shift” key once in a while, too. And since when did it become too burdensome to capitalize the lone letter “i”? I learned that it should always, always, always be capitalized, but maybe the rules have changed on me.
Ahh, venting feels good.
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Mary Whisner
Jul 1, 2008 3:42 PM CST
Numerous individuals utilize “numerous” when “many” would do—and “utlilize” when “use” would do. And why not say “people” instead of “individuals” or “persons”?
Slammer (comment #4) is right in decrying the use of “me” for “I.” But I more often hear and see the opposite: people who are afraid of using “me” when they should use “I” and so use “I” for objects as well as subjects: “Please make an appointment to see John and I.” “I hope Diane doesn’t take a picture of Peggy and I.”
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Bill
Jul 2, 2008 5:51 AM CST
It really bugs me when people say “I could care less” when they really mean “I couldn’t care less”. It probably shouldn’t bother me as much as it does, but it is still early and I have only had one coffee.
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MBJ
Jul 2, 2008 5:52 AM CST
When people post on web forums or blogs and use IM style shorthand. As in, “r u srs? omg!”
Text messaging is the little known 5th Horseman of the Apocalypse.
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LMD
Jul 2, 2008 5:53 AM CST
One thing (of many) which drives me nuts is when I see an apostrophe used in a plural. I recently saw a website listing many dogs under the heading “Pet’s Ready for Adoption.” Unless they meant to say that a particular pet was ready for adoption, which I doubt, they should have just said Pets. I see this same mistake at least once every day. It makes me sad.
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steve latimer
Jul 2, 2008 6:02 AM CST
The use of the word “clearly” as in “The cases clearly hold….” in a brief. That usage raises red flags to me that the proposition is less than clear, or that the writer did not do a thorough job of research.
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RJC
Jul 2, 2008 6:20 AM CST
1) “quote” is a verb, “quotation” is the noun
2) “impact” is a noun, not a verb
3) “exactly the same” is incoherent - sameness does not come in degrees, something either is the same as something else or it is not
4) agree with Mary Whisner above - there is never a reason to use “utilize,” and it is pretentious
5) also agree with steve latimer above - if something is clear it is easy to explain why. When “clearly” is used as a substitute for explanation it signals a lack of clear understanding
I realize that most of these incorrect usages are so common as to be accepted in many circles. My point is not that they are illegal, but that they are amateurish and betray an ignorance that will cause one not to be taken seriously by many others.
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Asking the Question
Jul 2, 2008 6:37 AM CST
“Aks” - why on earth does any ever “aks” a question? I know judges who say “aks.” Do they not hear the difference, or is this use intended to grate on the ears of listeners?
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Brian Kaser
Jul 2, 2008 6:42 AM CST
I have to agree with some other posters that pathological affection for the apostrophe is degrading written English in America.
I am intrigued also by the modern practice of verbing nouns….
Every new lawyer should read “Eats, Shoots and Leaves,” a clever book by an English writer (whose name I don’t recall at the moment) on bad grammar habits. A trip through Strunk and White’s Elements of Style wouldn’t hurt them, either.
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John
Jul 2, 2008 6:43 AM CST
It drives me “crazy” when people add “superfluous” quotation marks.
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Professor Hardass
Jul 2, 2008 6:45 AM CST
I used to teach law and my nickname was “Professor Hardass.” I was the comma hunter and it drove my students crazy because I would always deduct points for spelling and grammar errors. Each time I had to grade a paper I was appalled at the lack of elementary English. Didn’t these people graduate grade school, junior high, high school and (most shockingly) COLLEGE before they got to law school? The biggest pet peeve is not proof-reading work. For example, there was one assignment where the students had to write a memorandum of law on the theory of attempted possession of drugs and apply it to a fact pattern. Halfway through a particular student’s paper the phrase “attempted possession” became “attempted passion” which was repeated through the remainder of the paper. I have to admit that by that point it went off the scale of making me nuts to just belly-laugh out loud hysterical. Needless to say I gave the student an “F.”
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your an idiot
Jul 2, 2008 6:49 AM CST
I’m surprised no one mentioned using “your” when someone really means “you’re.”
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Meg
Jul 2, 2008 6:57 AM CST
I hate the misuse of the words less and fewer. Sometime in the past few years, people decided that they are interchangeable, but under the rules of grammar, they most certainly are not. Fewer denotes items that can be counted. Less is used to describe uncountable (and usually abstract) nouns.
I have fewer grammatical erros in my writing because I am an English major. I have less patience with people who use improper grammar than the average Joe.
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Anonymous
Jul 2, 2008 6:59 AM CST
I agree with all of these excellent points; however, I would like to point out that the word impact is, in fact, both a verb and a noun. When used as a verb, impact should mean “to pack in.” I think the poster is taking issue with its more recent meaning as a verb, rather than this traditional usage. And although Eats, Shoots & Leaves is a great book, it is actually chock full of mistakes - so beware!
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Jan DeRemer
Jul 2, 2008 7:00 AM CST
My pet peeve is confusion between “less” and “fewer.” “Less” refers to a smaller amount (less fat, less traffic) while “fewer” pertains to numbers (fewer calories, fewer cars). Thank you!
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Jess
Jul 2, 2008 7:02 AM CST
I am a hardass for apostrophes. They are not used for plurals. They are also placed after the “s” in a plural possessory noun. HOWEVER, technically if a singular noun ends in an “s”, you still add the ” ‘s ” to the end. Mr. Gloss’s mirror. Not Mr. Gloss’ mirror.
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Bill R.
Jul 2, 2008 7:10 AM CST
What has happened to the adverb? The distinction between adverbs and adjectives seems to be lost in 21st century America, where everyone from the woman on the street to news anchors to politicians say things like “He ran slow.” Slowly…slowly… ugh!
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Word Nerd
Jul 2, 2008 7:19 AM CST
Two horrible words: irregardless and devoid. STOP USING THEM PEOPLE!!!!!!
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Eric
Jul 2, 2008 7:22 AM CST
I have a serious problem with people using commas where they shouldn’t! I can hardly read the comments to any articles anymore…it is just appalling.
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Chris S.
Jul 2, 2008 7:25 AM CST
“and/or” is not a word, and/or “which” is not a proper substitute for “that”
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John
Jul 2, 2008 7:35 AM CST
The use of the words “as such” when the writer means “thus” is crazy (“The writer could not think of the right word. As such, he used the wrong ones.”). The words are meaningless in such a situation. This usage is becoming more and more popular, but needs to be stopped. “As such” has nosed ahead of the improper usage of “myself” as my pet peeve.
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writer's block
Jul 2, 2008 7:38 AM CST
Call me sexist, but I still pause for a moment whenever I see or hear “they” or “their” used to androgynously refer to “he” or “she” as in, “when a lawyer appears in court, they should wear a suit.” Come on, people, political correctness should not be an excuse for awkward grammar.
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Robert Taylor
Jul 2, 2008 7:39 AM CST
I don’t know where to begin.
The missuse of apostrophes is epidemic. The rampant confusion of ‘me’ and ‘I’ is shocking. But what really bugs me is the use of ‘less’ when ‘fewer’ should be used. The use of the word ‘fewer’ has almost disappeared.
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Lynn
Jul 2, 2008 7:40 AM CST
While the confusion of your and you’re irritates me, what bothers me more is the practice of making verbs out of nouns when there is already a verb for the action in question. For example, the use of “commentate”. The correct verb is “comment”. Where is Sister Marie Consuela (my 4th grade teacher and grammar/spelling fiend) and her trusty ruler when you need her?
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Karla
Jul 2, 2008 7:41 AM CST
High school English teachers appear to have drilled into too many heads the idea that “me” should be avoided in the context of “______ and me.” It drives me crazy every time I hear someone use “_____ and I” as an object or following a preposition. If you wouldn’t say “with I” or “for I,” don’t do it when there just happens to be an “and” before the first-person pronoun.
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Professor Hardass
Jul 2, 2008 7:41 AM CST
I can understand “irregardless” because that is not a word, but what is wrong with “devoid?” Another made-up word that I hear often, even on television is “boughten” as past tense for “buy.”
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Jen
Jul 2, 2008 7:42 AM CST
Misspelled words bother me to no end. Particularly, the spelling of “definitely.” I think some assume words are spelled as they are pronounced, but if someone pronounces words incorrectly then you suddenly get “definately.”
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Paul
Jul 2, 2008 7:43 AM CST
Using the apostrophe with a plural noun. (e.g., “I’ve got two dog’s. ” ). The apostrophe is like a virus; useful in its place, but infecting everything. Don’t people understand how to use it?
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l.rev.nerd
Jul 2, 2008 7:46 AM CST
1) “For all intensive purposes” instead of “for all intents and purposes.” What the heck is that all about?
2) I agree about the improper use of “me” instead of “I.” However, just as egregious is the use of “I” or “myself” when “me” is the appropriate word. This usually happens when the speaker is attempting to “sound smart.”
3) Using “them” or “they” when the writer is really speaking of a singular person in a gender-neutral way. We really need something better than “he or she” and “him or her,” but pluralizing is just not a good choice.
4) Tonite. Need I say more?
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Ashley
Jul 2, 2008 7:46 AM CST
In addition to everything listed above (it’s nice to know others share my concerns), I’m seriously concerned over the lack of formality in emails, particularly in a professional setting. I’m an attorney in private practice, at a rather large defense firm, and I receive emails all the time with “u” and “r” and other ridiculous text message style abbreviations, even from partners.
Responding to email via a blackberry doesn’t get you off the hook either. I’ve got mine strapped to me at all times and I still take the extra few seconds to type the entire word!
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Ashley
Jul 2, 2008 7:48 AM CST
Oh, one more - thru.
Seeing that in an actual appellate brief threw me over the edge. We’re not at Wendy’s!
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Shayne
Jul 2, 2008 7:51 AM CST
I agree with all of the above, but one I haven’t seen mentioned yet that really gets my goat is the confusion between “loose” and “lose.” For some reason, I see more and more people using “loose” when they mean “lose.” You don’t loose weight; you lose it. Then you clothes get loose.
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Shayne
Jul 2, 2008 7:52 AM CST
Ugh…YOUR clothes get loose.
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Marion
Jul 2, 2008 7:53 AM CST
The misspelling of “supersede” as “supercede.” Not only do I see this frequently in briefs, it appears with some frequency in reported decisions.
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Ken R
Jul 2, 2008 7:55 AM CST
Most of my peeves have been covered but I would add that “incent” has become a word only because of repeated, mistaken use. It is another example (similar to use of “impact” as a verb) of poor education and incorrect usage creating a new (and lower) standard for communication.
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Professor Hardass
Jul 2, 2008 7:56 AM CST
I am taking such glee from all my equally frustrated grammarians. I blame a lot of the spelling issues in the written word on phonics. Since the introduction of phonics as a teaching method (instead of good old fashioned memory dilling), no one seems to know how to spell.
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joe bartlett
Jul 2, 2008 7:58 AM CST
The use of the adverb ” verbally” , which means and only means the use of words, when what the speaker means is ” orally”
And the bastard veb ” incent”. “Motivate” is entirely adequate
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NJ attorney
Jul 2, 2008 7:59 AM CST
#26 - Most writing-style issues could be resolved by careful edits: “Lawyers appearing in court should wear suits.” You could avoid the he/she issue completely.
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l.rev.nerd
Jul 2, 2008 8:00 AM CST
Oooh! I thought of one more. My husband’s large corporation uses the word “solution” as a verb. He is regularly told to solution things.
For example: “Max, I’d like you to solution some strategies to reduce errors in this process.”
It makes me want to scream. Has anyone else heard this one?
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joe bartlett
Jul 2, 2008 8:01 AM CST
Apologize. I mispelled verb in the above comment. So here is one more, maybe the worst: ” very unique”. The word unique cannot be qualified. An item or event is unique or it isn’t . There is no in between
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Mike
Jul 2, 2008 8:01 AM CST
When people missuse the word “myriad,” which should be used like the word “many” (e.g. “There are myriad people misusing the word myriad”) and NOT like the words “a lot” (e.g. “There are a myriad of people misusing the word myriad in this fashion”). Of course, I myself had to learn the correct usage - from my high school English teacher- before I climbed up this high horse.
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Greg
Jul 2, 2008 8:04 AM CST
“In regards to.” It’s “in regard to” or “regarding” or “as regards X,...”. Of course, you can always give your regards to Broadway.
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Nashville J
Jul 2, 2008 8:07 AM CST
I applaud all of you for the comments you’ve already made; in particular, the misuse of I vs. me and extraneous apostrophes are the things that make me crazy. One more: “very unique.” “Unique” means “one of a kind,” so there are not degrees of uniqueness.
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Emily
Jul 2, 2008 8:08 AM CST
Myself. We are lawyers here people! This does not replace me or I. Learn the difference.
I seen it. No, you saw it.
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Gary
Jul 2, 2008 8:16 AM CST
What really drives me nuts is the way many people use the word “like” as a synonym for “said.” When someone is telling me about a conversation, I don’t give a rat’s behind what the speaker “was like” - I want to know what the speaker SAID.
I also agree wholeheartedly with the previous posters about plurals masquerading as possessives. Teachers should make it clear to their students that this is considered particularly egregious, and penalties should be swift, certain, and severe.
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CCM
Jul 2, 2008 8:27 AM CST
I agree with Slammer on the misuse of personal pronouns. An example of my most dispised usage is “The judge spoke to him and I.” What??? This is not rocket surgery! No—it’s not “I.” Just because there are two direct objects doesn’t mean that you may use the subjective pronoun—“I.” Here’s a simple test. Drop the “him” from the sentence. Now, would it be correct to say “The judge spoke to I?”
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