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Ex-Heller Partner: Women Lawyers Were ‘Canaries in the Coal Mine’

Posted Nov 3, 2008 2:56 PM CST
By Debra Cassens Weiss

A former Heller Ehrman partner who spearheaded a project to retain women lawyers has been doing some thinking about why law firms dissolve.

Patricia Gillette, an employment lawyer, leaped to Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe last October for what she describes as “cultural reasons.” At Heller, she founded the Opt-In Project with another lawyer in an effort to find out how to retain women lawyers. What she learned, she tells the ABA Journal, was that the problems spurring women lawyers to leave law firms were also contributing to firm implosions.

“Women were the canaries in the coal mine,” says Gillette. “What we found is that the issues that were causing women to leave law firms have become the issues that are causing young lawyers to leave large law firms, whether men or women.”

The project identified several problems with the management structure at law firms that are forcing out young lawyers unwilling to wait for the remote partnership prize, contributing to unhappiness among Baby Boomer lawyers seeking new practice options, and eroding the cohesiveness that had held firms together.

Gillette spoke about the need for cultural adhesiveness in a San Francisco Chronicle story about the dissolution of Heller and another San Francisco law firm, Thelen. The story says declining law firm profits test partner loyalties, leading some to leave for better pay. The loss of rainmaking partners and their important clients then leads to the decline of their former firms.

Gillette expanded on her comments in an ABA Journal interview. She says law firms need to change an up-or-out ladder structure of associate progression in exchange for a “lattice” structure that allows associates to opt off the partnership track for a while because of family responsibilities or other pursuits. Law firms need to abandon the billable hour and quit paying associate bonuses based on hours billed, she says. Instead bonuses should be based on an associate’s quality, efficiency, productivity and profitability, she says. Similarly, pay increases and progression in a law firm should be based on merit rather than associate class, in her view.

“I predicted three years ago that the billable hour would be gone in 10 years, and I stand by that,” she said. “There’s a point where law firms can only make more money by billing more hours and charging higher rates, and clients are starting to say, ‘No more.’ ”

Law firm models that emphasize profits over culture harm attorney retention, she says—and they also chip away at cohesiveness. She believes law firms with cultures that emphasize profits and billable hours won’t be able to keep their lawyers because they will leave for law firms that pay even more.

“When you let go of that culture and manage only by profits by partner, there is no glue to hold people together,” Gillette told the ABA Journal. “You’ve got to have trust between partner and partner, and partner and associate, and between clients and law firms. And that trust was broken. To survive, I think you’re going to have to see law firms restoring that.”

Gillette says trust can be built at law firms by getting associates involved in the redesign of law firm structures and being transparent about the process. She says Orrick is working on building the right kind of culture, but adds that Heller Ehrman once had a similar culture.

“I don’t think Heller Ehrman had any more of these problems than other law firms,” she said. “In fact, it had less, because Heller Ehrman had a very strong culture for a long time. I think people lost their sense of how strong the culture at Heller was.”

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Ellen Barshevsky
Nov 4, 2008 6:13 AM CST

I have NEVER even seen a coal mine, but my boyfriend agrees with this.  He says people put canaries in coal mines before the MEN went in. 

Mabye if that is what MEN think of us—to put us in the coal mine first, well then we should be PAID for this.  We should INSIST that we get better treatement for our jobs.

There is TOO MUCH DISCRIMINATION going on and we are getting put down by the men.  That is NOT good.  Now I see that Mayor BLOOMBERG is cutting on the line to vote.  How rediculous that he doesn’t have to wait to vote.  He is busy, but gess what, so am I, but I still take the time to do things RIGHT.

That is why I do NOT want to be a canary any more at work.  I will tell this to the manageing partner and let him know about this ARTICLE and BLAWG.

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paul
Nov 7, 2008 5:47 AM CST

Ellen, canaries were used in coal mines, not before men went in, but while men were working in the mine.  Canaries are more senstive to toxic gases commonly associated with coal mines and when the canary got sick, it meant that gas levels were too high and it was time to either get out or put on a protective mask.  Canaries saved llives.  So when women start leaving firms it might be an indication that something is wrong within the firm.  Canaries played a very important role in these operations as might women in law firms today, so the author suggests.

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b
Nov 7, 2008 7:00 AM CST

Somebody put Ellen in a coal mine.

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Jason
Nov 7, 2008 7:05 AM CST

Hopefully we have all figured out that “Ellen” is not sincere in her posts.

Oh, the humor.

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Bill Dickey
Nov 7, 2008 7:06 AM CST

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Jason
Nov 7, 2008 7:26 AM CST

Smaller law firms don’t charge $800 an hour to review a contract.  A 20 year partner will review it for $300 an hour.  That is why big law firms are losing work.

More and more work is being sent to law firms with under 50 lawyers.

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BC
Nov 7, 2008 7:49 AM CST

I think this problem transcends all types of law firms, and isn’t just limited to the large ones.  Small firms too, are trying to compete for business, and they are creating cultures that are geared more towards billable hours, then a work life balance.  The worst part is that the partnership carrot dangled infront of small firm associates is even less attainable than at a big firm becuase there is no defined partnership structure.  An associate may be at a small (i.e., under 50 attorney) firm for 15 years and still not be partner.  The whole system needs to be revamped.

PS - people should stop responding to Ellen, she’s not a real person.

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Tim
Nov 7, 2008 7:53 AM CST

BC.  At a small law firm, we can make 100,000, bill 1,700 hours and have a social and community life.  I wouldn’t think of transfering to a mega firm.

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Dan
Nov 7, 2008 8:25 AM CST

I think we should devote an entire article on Ellen.  Who is she?  Is she even a she?  What drives her/him to post random nonsense every week?  Is her boyfriend inflatable? The world may never know.

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Hadley V. Baxendale
Nov 7, 2008 8:28 AM CST

This is one of the better articles in this magazine; it’s very telling.  It proves what this guy has known for a long time:  girls are smarter than boys.  The women may buy into the same “bait” as men but they are quicker to see the “switch” and get out—the smarter move.
Also, realistically, many women have more options when it comes to leaving a job than their male counterparts.  These are the ones in the traditional family set-up where the family relies primarily on the man for the salary. Now, before you start flaming: of course there are many examples of families who are not in that dynamic, but those examples do not make the counter point untrue. Times may change that balance but I am focused on the reality here and now, not the ideal.

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Ronnie
Nov 7, 2008 8:36 AM CST

Tim,

That’s my world in a nutshell.  Isn’t small firm life great?!?!

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B. McLeod
Nov 7, 2008 8:38 AM CST

Well, “Ellen” kind of follows set conventions, such as [removed]with CAPS) of strong opinions sometimes only loosely related to the topic, followed by second-hand reports of comments by “her boy friend” or “managing partner.”  I’m going to go out on a limb and say this is probably those two guys at the Canadian radio station.

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MaryAnn
Nov 7, 2008 8:40 AM CST

I don’t think the problems of loss of culture and management solely by profit are limited to law firms, though law firms have their own particular brand of these problems, because law is a “profession.”  Welcome to corporate America!

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Happy Lawyer
Nov 7, 2008 11:40 AM CST

Having worked at both the firms mentioned in the article, and now of counsel to a small firm, I am not only much happier, but less stressed, AND (sorry for the caps) make as much money as I want to work for.  Also, I’m needed, so in no danger of being let go.

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AGB
Nov 7, 2008 1:38 PM CST

Let me chime in here with my two cents worth. The large law firms are not egalitarian enterprises and as such the sumon bonum has been and will continue to be the almighty dollar. Who promised these women this firm culture would change as soon as they chose to enter into this environment. Everone has to make choices. If you want a more family friendly environment please find a job where you are not expected to work 70 plus hours a week.
One other point I would like to make, the feminist movement of the last 35 years is partially responsible for this new angst felt by these younger ( under 35 years of age) female attorneys.  They have this unreasonable ” I can have it all” expectation of family, children, career, professional accomplishments, etc.  They are bright enough to soon find out these desires are in confict with the world of work. They soon become disenchanted as any choices ( compromises) leaves them less than satisfied as they are required to give relinquish
some of these personal goals.  Men have always been expected to work and are still judged by their adequacy as a provider.  At least many of you have an option to decide the type of life you will lead.

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Rocco
Nov 8, 2008 10:03 AM CST

Wasn’t this a song by The Police?

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Stickybrea
Nov 10, 2008 1:56 PM CST

As a female lawyer, I am sick and tired of hearing women at big firms complain that they want both the money and a flexible work schedule; this is an unrealistic fantasy.  The big firms pay a lot of money but you are expected to make sarifices regardless of your gender.  If you want money and a flexible work schedule, bring in the business, be the rain maker.  Otherwise, don’t be surprised getting passed over for partnership.  As far as being able to stay indefinitely as an associate, it does not make economic sense to continue paying you big bucks when someone will do the work for less.  Sorry, but you are not indispensable.  The quicker you learn that lesson, the better off you’ll be.

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