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Howrey Axes About 10 Associates; Not Layoffs But ‘Outplacement’

Posted Dec 10, 2008 4:49 PM CST
By Martha Neil

About 10 associates are being let go at Howrey as the year draws to a close.

However, these aren't layoffs but "an outplacement of some associates based on performance issues," an unnamed law firm spokesperson tells Above the Law.

The firm is doing well financially, and, unlike many of its competitors, is not rescinding or delaying offers to incoming first-year associates, the spokesperson states.

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1.

B. McLeod
Dec 10, 2008 7:50 PM CST

An “outplacement”??  I love it!!  I guess it’s like they gently set these ten SOC8s outside, and then changed the locks.  And, now the firm is doing well financially.  So when these SOC8s are interviewing for their next job, that reason-for-leaving answer will be “outplacement.”  They weren’t fired or laid off, just “placed out.”  On the sidewalk.  So, I guess the consultants who thought we were done with layoffs in 2008 were right after all, we’re on to the “outplacements” now.

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2.

outplaced yeah right
Dec 11, 2008 10:00 AM CST

“The firm is doing well financially”  So is Howrey saying it doesn’t know how to judge talent or they lying about how well the firm is doing.

My bet is they are losing some big clients and can’t afford to keep these guys

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3.

Donald
Dec 12, 2008 7:21 AM CST

Post 1 has the sound of sour grapes lurking in the background.  Either a current biglaw associate or one scorned.  I say if you don’t have anything better, then accept the summer offer even if “discouraged”,  get some nice free lunches out of it, and save your dough.  You’ll be no worse off.  Then go work for the government after you graduate.  The pay isn’t great but you can’t beat the hours.  If that doesn’t work you can always enlist.

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4.

Boston IP
Dec 12, 2008 7:26 AM CST

Way to screw these associates, Howrey.  Now when they go interview, the next firm will know they were let go for “performance issues.”  They would have been better off being laid off.

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5.

Ed Poll
Dec 12, 2008 8:52 AM CST

What is “performance?” Is it legal skills, or is it a “rainmaking” issue. I was told that those terminated were discharged because they couldn’t develop a book of business for the firm ... This is a different spin on the current discussion.

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6.

Willie
Dec 12, 2008 8:57 AM CST

That’s great…layoffs became “down sizing” and now down sizing has become “outplacement”... what public relations BS. What’s next?

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7.

Kafka_Esquire
Dec 12, 2008 9:03 AM CST

With regard to the Poster at No. 6, the relevant buzzword might be they they are going to “Free” Willie.  Joking aside, one client once used the term “return selected colleagues to the community.”

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8.

JD
Dec 12, 2008 9:13 AM CST

That’s rich, Kafka.  I don’t think any spin can top that one.  That’s a keeper. 
Go ye forth from here and rejoin the masses of the “great unwashed.”
And a Happy New Year !!

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9.

Out to pasture too
Dec 12, 2008 9:23 AM CST

Howrey is not the only firm putting a spin on associate reductions.  I was brought in as a mid-level lateral to a large firm last year.  I was never given enough work, despite my many efforts to secure assignments in my specialty and outside it.  I was criticized sharply for my lack of skills in areas in which I had never worked and not given in enough work in my specialty.  Now, I am being let go for “performance” issues, not due to lack of work.  It’s been a frustrating 18 months, and it will be painful finding a new job.  Somehow it affects the firm’s reputation less if it reduces workforce due to performance rather than the bad management that is perhaps at the root of the reductions.

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10.

JDirk
Dec 12, 2008 9:34 AM CST

“Outplaced.”

Hilarious.

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11.

jmccoh
Dec 12, 2008 9:46 AM CST

shame on howrey!  the firm was so worried about its image that they threw the asssociates under the bus and publicly branded them as inadequate. even if that’s true,  no employees should be treated that way but the impact on young professionals is especially brutal.

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12.

B. McLeod
Dec 12, 2008 10:07 AM CST

It seems clear that firm conduct is below par when even Boston IP feels compelled to post a criticism (although, by the logic of his other posts today, this is simply a sign that he hates the Howrey partners for having jobs, and thinks they are “evil”).

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13.

rs
Dec 12, 2008 10:15 AM CST

My wife and I got into a fight and I had to sleep on the couch.  However, I didn’t feel as bad about it because she called it outplacement for the night.

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14.

work is booming here
Dec 12, 2008 10:50 AM CST

#9 - “I was never given enough work”

How much did you bring in?  I am a third year.  I am on pace to exceed my salary in paid recievables this year.  If there is no work, go get your own clients.

If you can’t kill Bambi, you won’t eat.

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15.

DR
Dec 12, 2008 10:57 AM CST

#14 “If you can’t kill Bambi, you won’t eat.”

Vegetarians would disagree.

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16.

Andy the Lawyer
Dec 12, 2008 12:17 PM CST

Memo to Howrey—Speak English.  If you’ve fired somelawyers, you haven’t “outlpaced” them.  You haven’t “placed” them anywhere unless you got them new jobs.  Did you?  I think not.

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17.

lawyerly lawyer
Dec 12, 2008 4:18 PM CST

#14—“Mr. ON PACE”

While I totally agree with you on getting your own client, “On pace to exceed” your salary in paid receivables??? Are you kidding me?  You obviously haven’t been practicing long.  If you’re “on pace” you haven’t exceeded anything until you collect on those receivables.  See me at the end of your firm’s fiscal year.

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18.

work is booming here
Dec 12, 2008 4:52 PM CST

#17

It’s year end for me and depending on what my report is at the end of today, I will have or will by next Friday meet my goal.  My clients get good work and pay me accordingly. 

I can count on one hand the number of my clients who are late in payment or stiffed me.  It’s not as hard as people think for new laywers to bring in six figure sums to the firm and collect on it.  You can do that with 5-7 good clients.  Don’t tell me a 3rd year can’t do that in every big city around the country.  That’s 3-5 small PPM’s for start-ups.  That’s 3-5 sales of a family biz.

They don’t try.  That’s the problem.

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19.

B. McLeod
Dec 12, 2008 7:26 PM CST

I don’t want to discourage anyone who has his groove on, but unless an attorney has had an exceptionally thorough and intense 3 years of working securities transactions under seasoned attorneys, 3-5 such transactions a year for a 3rd year associate is hopscotch in a minefield.  What you get to keep is as important as what you make.

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20.

work is booming here
Dec 15, 2008 9:17 AM CST

B.  You miss the point.  Yes, I have done close to 50 different securities transactions in my 3 years.  However, even if there is a deal I am not experienced on, the guys in my division can.

I bring in clients based on the firm reputation.  I realize I am not bringing them in based on my 3 years of expereince.  I wouldn’t hire myself to do a $25 million ppm.  However, I can bring them in knowing I have 25 guys working alongside of me who have done thousands of these deals.  They still count as my clients since I brought them in even if I am not the one billing the majority of the work.  Everyone on this board can bring in 3-5 clients a year (with collectibles of $50,000 for each of those clients) even if they don’t do the work themselves in whatever area of law they work in.

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21.

Vegetarians United.
Dec 15, 2008 8:50 PM CST

#15:  OK, if you can’t kill Carrot Top, you won’t eat.

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22.

Therlo
Dec 16, 2008 8:38 AM CST

Puhleeeese.  Secretaries have been taking the brunt of “downsizing, rightsizing and outplacing” for years. We currently “support” 4 attorneys and heaven forbid any of them are old timers as they need the most “support” and we don’t have time for the newcomers.  It’s a lose/lose situation.  Must…fire…secretaries…and…hire…image…consultants.

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