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Law Firm Leaders: Why Hire Summers When Laid-Off Lawyers Are Available?
Posted Aug 28, 2009 7:30 AM CST
By Debra Cassens Weiss
Two leaders of Ohio law firms that cut their summer associate programs next year explain their decision in part with this sad fact: There is a lot of unemployed talent to choose from, if the need arises.
The law firms—Roetzel & Andress and Brouse McDowell—are among four Ohio law firms that have eliminated 2010 summer programs because of the poor economy, according to Crain’s Cleveland Business (sub. req.). The others are Squire, Sanders & Dempsey and Thompson Hine.
Christopher Carney, chairman of the hiring committee at Brouse McDowell, told Crain’s that the firm is trying to be flexible, and doesn’t intend to permanently end its summer associate program. Brouse McDowell has more than 70 lawyers working in Cleveland and Akron.
But he notes that the firm has lots of options if it needs to hire additional lawyers. “There's a huge pool of legal talent out there,” Carney told the publication. “We didn't see the need at this point for entry-level lawyers in 2011. That may change.”
John Coyne, partner in charge of Ohio and Washington, D.C., associates for Roetzel & Andress, told Crain’s his firm doesn’t want to give law students false hopes by hiring them as summer associates when the firm isn’t likely to ask them to stay. When the economy improves, he said, the firm will start up the program again.
He added that with so many associates on the market, the firm can choose from experienced lawyers. Roetzel & Andress has 220 lawyers in 11 offices in Ohio, Florida and Washington, D.C.
Meanwhile, a law firm that is continuing its summer program, albeit with fewer slots, is seeing a lot of interest. James Dougherty, Cleveland hiring partner for Jones Day, says this year on-campus interviews are “kind of a circus.”
“We've had wait lists at [University of California, Los Angeles] and [University of Southern California]. At Yale, there were over 40 people on the wait-list schedule alone,” he told the publication.
Related coverage:
ABAJournal.com: “For One Law Firm, Canceled Summer Associate Program Is Old News”
ABAJournal.com: “Law Firms Delay Decisions on Job Offers to Summer Associates”
ABAJournal.com: “A ‘Lost Year’ for 2Ls: About Half of BigLaw Jobs Are Gone”
ABAJournal.com: “Shrinking BigLaw Summer Programs Down By As Much As 50%”

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B. McLeod
Aug 28, 2009 7:53 AM CST
Why, indeed? The answer comes down to image. Many firms will continue to hire shiny, new “associates,” rather than reemploying experienced castaways, simply because the castaways have suffered a period of perceived “unsuccess.” They are now and forever marred for BigLaw purposes. Damaged goods, or seconds, as it were. BigLaw loves a winner, and will not tolerate a loser.
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tim
Aug 28, 2009 9:37 AM CST
Makes sense. Why would you want to train a summer associate when you can pick up an ex BigLaw associate and pay him what you would pay the summer associate?
You don’t have to train them and you can billl them at higher rates and not write off a lot of their time.
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tim
Aug 28, 2009 9:38 AM CST
In response to McLeod - in today’s market. A laid off BigLaw is not a loser. Everyone knows that even great lawyers are being laid off due to the economy. 10 years ago that might have been true. Not anymore.
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SS
Aug 28, 2009 9:46 AM CST
When the rainmakers can’t due to the economy , the partners at BigLaw will look to the associates as expendable first. If you think laid off associates or junior partners or in-house lawyers are losers, than you’ve never lost your job due to politics or the economy.
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J.D.
Aug 28, 2009 11:26 AM CST
The logic is sound, BUT many immigration attorneys don’t understand this reasoning at all: when unemployment is skyrocketing, they still push for MORE immigration. It was blatantly obvious in the IT industry after the dotcom bust in 2000. Tons of IT workers couldn’t find jobs, students graduating with IT degrees couldn’t find jobs, YET IMMIGRATION ATTORNEYS brought in hundreds of thousands of foreign tech workers!
And STILL with people losing their job every week, we’re bringing in over a million people every year. WHY? Perhaps the attorneys now looking for jobs can start their own legal firm aimed at fighting immigration groups in order to protect others’ jobs.
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B. McLeod
Aug 28, 2009 3:58 PM CST
Please note that I am but reporting my perception as to how BigLaw itself regards (and will treat) the unsuccess-tarnished castaways. As time passes, I believe this will be amply shown, and that very few of them will ever be taken back to the bosom of BigLaw.
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Seff
Aug 29, 2009 5:30 PM CST
See also - why hire recent law grads for small/midsized firms or government/public interest positions when laid-off attorneys are availabe?
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James
Aug 29, 2009 8:13 PM CST
I wasn’t aware big law had a bosom. Now Obama’s government, that has some giant bosoms!!! ....ah nevermind you all know where this metaphor is going.
One
Big
Ass
Mistake
America
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B. McLeod
Aug 30, 2009 2:02 AM CST
Ah, but,
W hy did that happen?
W hat caused it?
W here will it end?
W ho was the moron that forced the voters down this path?
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